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Well no, we can do alot better than that and we also have a few concerns in relation to bandwidth usage. 20,000 people watching a 500kps video concurrently will need a hell of a lot of bandwidth if our 1,000 users per machine are all watching video then we would be pushing 500mps. Most hosters will only give you a 100mps burst capable pipe at a reasonable price so suddenly at best our machine can only handle 200 users meaning we now need 100 machines to cope....this is getting expensive.
Well our solution was up in the clouds.
First off we pushed all images and video to Amazon cloudfront which allows us to put all these objects on the edge locations close to the customer and also they are served from there meaning they do now clog up our bandwidth. This means we are now only in effect serving html and the silverlight controls now bandwidth is no longer a limiting factor. Now we're back to 1,000 per machine if anyone is keeping count.
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I would like to build an infrastructure similar to yours using ASP.Net, SimpleDB and i would like to make it scalable like yours, but i have a question. I have read a lot about the latency of SimpleDB, my question is: If a user registers in your web site how you solve the latency problem? I understood that you store the sessions in Simple DB, but if some reasons there is some latency how you manage it?
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ReplyDeleteThanks for the nice comments. Nearly all the interaction on SimpleDB is from our Web servers which are on EC2 so this has no real latency issues as they exist on the same network. We also cache all the main SimpleDB request on the server so SimpleDB is not even hit in these scenarios.
Our Session state is held on SimpleDB too but again the interaction is between webserver and SimpleDB so again no problem.
We use webservices to supply data to Silverlight controls on the client but we have no more latency issues then if we were running the DB server in a traditional way and of course we using caching extensively here too.
On a side note I have used simpleDB for awhile now and I find it rock solid reliable and latency is not really an issue for me yet anyway.
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I have been evaluating EC2 for a while now. The question I have is in regards to run away costs. We build and maintain a content management system for websites. We have a few hundred customers. Some with very high traffic websites, others with small websites with minimal visitors. Quite a few with Videos that are streamed. What I'm concerned with is cost. Porting our system over only to find out that because of our usage, we are worse than we were before cost wise. In a month, if you were to consider your high usage periods when you have 20 servers provisioned, how much does that run you cost wise? Or how does that compare to the low usage periods?
ReplyDeleteMy problem is I just don't know enough about EC2. Even though I can read all of the white papers and pricing charts, I just don't know how to apply that to our situation and resource needs.
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Any idea of expanding in Italy? My father is a Math Professor at University of Engineering?
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Saying all that we are in the process of moving them to EC2 why? because of two main reasons 1) Peace of Mind. If a box on the planet goes pop we have a stessful time to rebuild and test etc to get it back up. In EC2 if a box goes pop we just launch it again. 2) Scalability, If we need to expand our resouces in the Planet it's a big undertaking that takes management and time, in EC2 we just launch up another instance and attached to the Load Balancer (which is great in AWS). Cost wise it's probably cheaper to go the Planet to tell you the truth.
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